tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post7544507066470062873..comments2024-01-17T13:16:10.378-08:00Comments on Joseph4GI: Where Circumcision Doesn't Prevent HIVJosephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14190648498809795551noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-47197978281902772762013-07-14T15:24:54.201-07:002013-07-14T15:24:54.201-07:00It's not the naysayers that I want reading thi...It's not the naysayers that I want reading this article...<br /><br />"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." ~Dr. Seuss<br /><br />Someone will understand. Someone must.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190648498809795551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-13726294521524100932013-07-13T23:10:40.007-07:002013-07-13T23:10:40.007-07:00Of course, the naysayers will either ignore this a...Of course, the naysayers will either ignore this article, or feebly try to countermand it. We can but try to get the truth out - thank you!Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14343706168408882337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-37404191598493284922012-09-12T04:33:27.023-07:002012-09-12T04:33:27.023-07:00See the USAID document this is based on:
http://w...See the USAID document this is based on:<br /><br />http://www.measuredhs.com/pubs/pdf/CR22/CR22.pdf<br /><br />In section 9.4 (table 9.3) on page 110 (or P124 of the PDF) they do have 11.5% for Kenya.<br /><br />There is no typo.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190648498809795551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-61266265147540096712012-09-11T09:28:23.388-07:002012-09-11T09:28:23.388-07:00The pie chart has one typo in it. Under Kenya, it ...The pie chart has one typo in it. Under Kenya, it says 11.5% instead of 1.5%Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01859309662193881430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-509029061423693192012-09-07T02:12:41.497-07:002012-09-07T02:12:41.497-07:00Thanks Joseph. So our US has gall to mess with the...Thanks Joseph. So our US has gall to mess with the sexual health of other countries, when its own youth are not as healthy compared to Germany, France, and the Netherlands.<br /><br />http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=419&Itemid=177<br /><br />KOTFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06711334493621537901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-48645098569522009462011-12-08T23:03:42.022-08:002011-12-08T23:03:42.022-08:00Ronald said......Thanks Joseph i am a doctor from ...Ronald said......Thanks Joseph i am a doctor from Uganda where one of the "trials" that claimed a protective effect of circumcision on HIV was carried out.I totally agree with you that these trial were flawed and are at variance with empirical evidence. For example in Uganda only 2 tribes out of the over 40 tribes in the country traditionally circumcise and yet the areas where these tribes come from have higher HIV prevalence rates than the national average. <br /> It therefore makes be sad when i see all the millions of dollars being spent on mass circumcision in my country at the expense of other proven interventions. In Uganda promotion of condom use and advocating behavior change has taken a back seat as the circumcision brigade take over!!<br /> But as some one knowledgeable on the goings on here i know it is all about the money..our so called researchers and policy makers have all been attracted by the huge amounts of money being poured in to this mass circumcision debacle despite knowing well that it is not going to deal with the epidemic but will probably worsen itronaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04533809967677169624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-31114553589734033342011-12-05T17:18:53.880-08:002011-12-05T17:18:53.880-08:00This is public knowledge available to anyone who s...This is public knowledge available to anyone who searches for it. I claim no credit for it whatsoever. You should feel free to take whatever you want from this blog and use it how you see fit.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190648498809795551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-21955817805329747052011-12-02T07:43:06.391-08:002011-12-02T07:43:06.391-08:00Hello.
My local newspaper has been tossing around ...Hello.<br />My local newspaper has been tossing around the 60% statistic and I have decided to write a letter to the editor on the matter. Would you mind if I used some of the data presented here?Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06315468171161376856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-73138945746204507972011-12-01T17:29:40.886-08:002011-12-01T17:29:40.886-08:00Yes, though I must say it was more American than i...Yes, though I must say it was more American than it was scientific...Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190648498809795551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-3410151304371525862011-12-01T17:01:35.890-08:002011-12-01T17:01:35.890-08:00Thanks for the article. I am going to spread it ar...Thanks for the article. I am going to spread it around. Did you happen to read scientific Americans article in this topic?LaDenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05605867341886091045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-15791914795509934082011-06-27T18:54:38.947-07:002011-06-27T18:54:38.947-07:00I agree that you should try to get your blogs publ...I agree that you should try to get your blogs published. I've read a lot of what people have to say about circumcision and you're one of the best. What you say needs to be heard!Erikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15822137775433114183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-45293260056144761232011-05-31T13:48:09.266-07:002011-05-31T13:48:09.266-07:00Thank you for pointing us at Van Howe's terrif...Thank you for pointing us at Van Howe's terrific article. It would be really great to have your information in additional journals -- the more the merrier -- but at least his is out there.<br /><br />Thanks again for all your work, Joseph!Tinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17164078073285459918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-5619221393487467832011-05-31T02:19:10.489-07:002011-05-31T02:19:10.489-07:00At least one paper has already been written:
http...At least one paper has already been written:<br /><br />http://www.publichealthinafrica.org/index.php/jphia/article/view/jphia.2011.e4/html_9<br /><br />It includes resources I provide here and more. I can only dream of writing something like this...Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190648498809795551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-44105899654867244792011-05-29T19:35:13.006-07:002011-05-29T19:35:13.006-07:00You say "I only hope this gets around to rese...You say "I only hope this gets around to researchers and scientists in the field"... well this is how you get it there! Have you ever tried to have this information (be sure to include the evidence that circumcision is backfiring) published in a scientific journal? Seriously, no one is asking you to be an expert, so you don't have to feel bad that you don't have degrees etc. You are just gathering public data in one place, as you've said. Isn't it worth giving it a try?Tinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17164078073285459918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-28509182205485832002011-05-29T16:23:46.777-07:002011-05-29T16:23:46.777-07:00Thanks for the comments.
Unfortunately, I am not ...Thanks for the comments.<br /><br />Unfortunately, I am not a "scientist" or an "expert" by any stretch of the imagination.<br /><br />And, unfortunately, that's what it takes to question anything these days...<br /><br />I only hope this gets around to researchers and scientists in the field who are actually impartial and objective, and have no axe to grind when it comes to circumcision.<br /><br />I think it's a sad day in history when basic human anatomy is placed in the position of "guilty until proven innocent."<br /><br />From what I can tell, circumcision "researchers" are not actually interested in public health or stopping the spread of HIV; they're interested in spreading circumcision.<br /><br />It's what it's always been about; they like to pretend as if circumcision were this "new and innovative" procedure they only "just" discovered yesterday, as if circumcision hadn't been this historically controversial and ethically problematic surgery through the centuries.<br /><br />Look to see who's behind all this "research" and you'll find "scientists" who come from backgrounds where circumcision has been a constant struggle to defend (IE, Americans, Jews, Muslims, older commonwealth members, etc.).<br /><br />The validation of circumcision is and always has been their ultimate goal, and they have managed to hijack the HIV movement to this end...<br /><br />It's frustrating because, even if the "research" were 100% accurate, circumcision falls short, being outperformed by condoms. Circumcised men would still need to use condoms, to which one would ask, well then what is the point? Why must we spend millions of dollars to circumcise these men, only to tell them that all they have to do is wear a condom?<br /><br />Word on the African street is that "we circumcised guys can't get AIDS." The promotion of circumcision is already leading to more unsafe sex and this is resulting in the SPREAD AIDS, not its reduction.<br />http://joseph4gi.blogspot.com/2011/05/male-circumcision-and-hiv-in-africa.html<br /><br />Even if the research were valid, and as I present, there is plenty of reason to question it, promoting a dubious alternative to condoms is a terrible mistake, and it's already having terrible consequences. We're effectively bankrolling the spread of HIV.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190648498809795551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-20758910749190528312011-05-29T12:40:05.945-07:002011-05-29T12:40:05.945-07:00I wish I had had this wonderful compilation of dat...I wish I had had this wonderful compilation of data handy a few years ago when I attended a community hearing held by the New York City Department of Health & Mental Hygiene on the topic of circumcision as a preventive strategy for HIV/AIDS. The panel - including Thomas Frieden, now director of the CDC - never blinked the veracity (or credibility) of the African studies from Auvert, Bailey and the usual pro-circumcision camp. More than once they even use the term "men who 'lack' circumcision", as though intact men were to be pitied (and "corrected"). Hardly the sort to rely on for objective scientific inquiry -- yet they are exactly the ones who determine HIV/AIDS policy in this country. It was a classic exhibition of the "circumcised mind": they reached around all of this freely accessible data to reach the figures that supported their cultural and personal bias toward male genital cutting. I will be sure to have your compiled data at the ready for any such meetings in the future. Thank you for posting!! - JWPJeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02509655238969603606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-90717022079553442212011-05-29T08:43:57.667-07:002011-05-29T08:43:57.667-07:00THIS IS INCREDIBLY GREAT! Please publish it! You c...THIS IS INCREDIBLY GREAT! Please publish it! You could send it to all the medical journals which have run stuff about HIV or HIV/ circumcision, ie, as a "response letter". I think there is a good chance one will accept it and publish it, AT LEAST as a letter, and possibly as an opinion piece or even an article. (I'm not sure what the policy is, however, if MORE than one wants to publish it... perhaps you should stagger the submissions, starting with the most widely read journals.) Surely the British Journal of Urology (which published the Sorrells study) ought to be on our side. THANK YOU!Tinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17164078073285459918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-65653971208490263452011-05-29T02:49:04.421-07:002011-05-29T02:49:04.421-07:00Thanks for the heads up; it is me.
And uh... yeah...Thanks for the heads up; it is me.<br /><br />And uh... yeah... does get kind of lonesome...<br /><br />Thanks for adding your comment! :-)Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190648498809795551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-49783341403896850442011-05-29T00:57:18.044-07:002011-05-29T00:57:18.044-07:00Hi, you might be interested to know your article h...Hi, you might be interested to know your article has been linked to in reddit and the comments are here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/hmkbw/where_circumcision_doesnt_prevent_hiv/<br />Just in case you aren't the OP of that thread... and I see you've got 0 comments on here.Arunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654418243128710697noreply@blogger.com