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Thursday, March 3, 2016

Israel Ahead of New York in Recommending Against Metzitzah B'Peh



Following the deaths of two newborns as a direct result of herpes infection through metzitzah b'peh, an ultra-orthodox practice where a mohel sucks blood from the circumcision wound of a newly circumcised newborn, and the infection of several others, the New York City Health Department issued a mandate that would require parents to sign a consent form before allowing a mohel to perform metztizah b’peh on their sons, as a measure to protect further boys from being infected.

Had the measure actually been implemented, the health commission would have imposed penalties at its own discretion. They would respond to public complaints and investigate the claims, and that repercussions would have ranged from a phone call or a formal warning letter, to fines of up to $2,000 for each violation.

The mandate was more of a gesture, because there was no actual ban or regulation of metzitzah b'peh, and mohels would face no penalties whatsoever if the waivers were not signed.

Despite the mandate having been essentially impotent, ultra-orthodox rabbis were intolerant of what they saw as an "unconstitutional, shocking governmental overreach." Rabbi William Handler, leader of Traditional Bris Milah, a self-proclaimed group formed to “protect Jewish ritual circumcision,” declared this mandate to be "the first step in completely taking away traditional bris milah from the Jewish people in New York City.”

To prevent this mandate from taking effect, several rabbis and Jewish organizations, including Agudath Israel of America and the International Bris Association, filed a lawsuit at the Federal District Court in Manhattan. They accused mayor Bloomberg of "blood libel," and the New York City Health Department of "trying to enforce erroneous opinions on the people of New York City." They claim the city lacked “any definitive proof” that metzitzah b’peh “poses health risks of any kind," despite the fact that the CDC found a total of 11 baby Jewish boys in NYC were infected with herpes.

Concerned Rabbis kept fighting to push back the date of the regulation's actual implementation, and after much ado, NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio finally annulled the regulation enforced by the Bloomberg administration on the practice of Metzitzah B’peh last year.

Essentially, babies died of herpes infections, several others were infected, and it's as if nothing actually ever happened.

In Israel, on the other hand, the Israeli Health Ministry is planning to go as far and distribute a detailed document dealing with the risks and advantages of metzitsah b'peh to new parents.

According to the Jewish Press, many doctors say the practice increases by 350% the chance of infecting the newborn baby with herpes simplex.

Some members of the chief rabbinate were concerned that the move might harm mohels, the Jewish Press says.

And I ask, what, pray tell, about the babies?

Nonetheless, I must say, how interesting the turn of events. What the health ministry in New York couldn't do, they're actually doing in Israel.

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While PACE Holds a Hearing on Circumcision, Another Baby Contracts Herpes in NYC

Mohels Spreading Herpes: New York Looks the Other Way

NEW STUDY: Ultra-Orthodox Mohels Don't Give Babies Herpes

Circumcision Indicted in Yet Another Death: Rabbis and Mohels are "Upset"

NEW YORK: Yet Another Herpes Baby

 Herpes Circumcision Babies: Another One? Geez!

BUSTED: Agudath Israel of America's Antics Revealed

Thursday, January 30, 2014

While PACE Holds a Hearing on Circumcision, Another Baby Contracts Herpes in NYC

The Israeli Knesset's efforts to replace the recent resolution adopted by the Council of Europe, which calls the non-medical circumcision of minors a human rights violation, with their own, culminated in a parliamentary hearing, which took place in Strasbourg last week.

As part of their campaign, the Knesset produced a promotional film, which they aired at the PACE hearing, in hopes of getting their wish that the latest PACE resolution be replaced, vindicating the forced circumcision of healthy, non-consenting minors.

Meanwhile, in New York, yet another case of a baby contracting herpes after a traditional Jewish circumcision ritual, where a mohel sucks the wounded penis of a newly circumcised child (AKA, Metzitzah b'peh) makes the news. (Incidentally, the current mayor has shelved his promise to repeal the New York law that requires mohels to inform parents of the risks of Metzitzah for the time being.)

Those who support the current resolution also stated their case.

More information on the hearing available here.

I wonder if the Knesset included Metzitzah b'peh as part of their film...

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ISRAEL: The Emperor's New Foreskin
EUROPE: Israeli MK Lectures PACE on the Medical Virtues of Ritual Circumcision
 
NEW YORK: Yet Another Herpes Baby

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New York: Oral Mohel Tests Positive for Herpes

Herpes Circumcision Babies: Another One? Geez!

Mohels Spreading Herpes: New York Looks the Other Way

Circumcision Indicted in Yet Another Death: Rabbis and Mohels are "Upset"

Wednesday, April 10, 2013

NEW STUDY: Ultra-Orthodox Mohels Don't Give Babies Herpes



The number of reported cases of babies contracting herpes following their circumcisions, where ultra-orthodox mohels practice the obscure tradition of using their mouths to suck a child's freshly circumcised penis to "cleanse the wound," (AKA "metzitzah b'peh") has been increasing. Just the other day two more such cases made the news, and it is alleged that New York City hospitals and the city’s Department of Health are suppressing disclosure of even more cases.

But mohels putting their mouths on the wounded penises of children is not a health risk, claims Jewish group Agudath Israel of America , who has been fighting tooth and nail to get a new law requiring mohels report the risks of their practice to parents repealed. (They have been, as of yet, unsuccessful.) The law is basically worthless, as there aren't any real penalties, and it holds no one responsible, but the group wants it repealed anyway.

Agudath wants the New York law repealed, and this time, they've got "scientific evidence" to "prove" their tradition doesn't put children in any danger.

Well, at least the danger of herpes transmission.

Agudath has issued a press release lauding a study which they hope will vindicate a practice of what would otherwise constitute as neonatal pedophilia in other cases.

I find it rather comical that a religious group wants to vindicate a tradition with "research" ("religious freedom," it seems, is in itself, insufficient) as if the outcome of any "study" determines whether or not an act is morally justified; the act of slicing the penis of a healthy, non-consenting newborn is already sufficiently morally repugnant.

What do the outcomes of any "study" matter to people of faith anyway? Would Agudath seriously stop practicing their ritual had their "study" produced unfavorable results? I highly doubt it. Ultra-orthodox mohels continue to practice the act in spite of new regulations as it is. The infected babies are the evidence.

But Agudath continues to try and make the case that although babies have contracted herpes, their cherished tradition has absolutely nothing to do with it, the evidence and other research be damned.

They've got the "scientific proof," which I'm sure was conducted neutrally, and dispassionately, without any particular political goal in mind.

(Yeah right.)

I've taken the liberty of taking some relevant excerpts in the latest press release and taking them apart, right here on this blog.

Adugath Israel of America Appeals to "Research"
Reads the title of the press release:

"Ivy League Study Casts Doubt on Claims that Jewish Tradition Leads to Herpes in Infants
Jewish leaders praise independent study by Penn Medicine that found little evidence to support the claim that circumcision ritual is infecting infants"



 It appears "casting doubt" was the sole purpose of the "study," which I have a hard time believing is "independent." I'm sure Agudath has absolutely nothing to do with it.


"In a study published in December last year, University of Pennsylvania's Center for Evidence-based Practice reviewed several studies linking circumcision with oral suction, a common ritual for many Orthodox Jews, and herpes simplex virus (HSV) type 1. Though four published studies since 2000 suggested that such a link does exist, Penn doctors found the evidence to be 'small and significantly limited.'"

What do they posit is the cause for male babies contracting herpes following the ritual?

Who are the "doctors," and have they been investigated for potential conflict of interest? (IE, are they ultra-orthodox Jews who engage in the traditional practice? Are they in any way tied to Agudath?)

I keep hearing the word "evidence-based" thrown around, but that seems to mean a practice is justified as long as you have some sort of "study" that says it's OK.

Shouldn't medical practice be "needs-based?"


And what, pray tell, does religious ritual have to do with medical practice?


Four studies have been published since 2000 suggesting a link between a person putting his mouth on the wounded penis of a neonate is a risk for herpes transmission, but this one sets them all straight.

It doesn't seem to help by suggesting a causal link of its own though.

"The study was cited in an appeal filed Monday in the U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals challenging a New York City Department of Health (DOH) regulation that seeks to place limits on the practice.
'We have been saying for years that the evidence attacking this religious practice is highly dubious, and now we have world class doctors agreeing with us,' said Rabbi Gedaliah Weinberger, chairman emeritus of the board of trustees of Agudath Israel of America, a party in the suit."

Moral and ethical questions are moot as long as you have some sort of "study," it seems. But this reasoning doesn't always work.


"'We have been saying for years that the evidence attacking this religious practice is highly dubious, and now we have world class doctors agreeing with us,' said Rabbi Gedaliah Weinberger, chairman emeritus of the board of trustees of Agudath Israel of America, a party in the suit."

 Argumentum ad verecundiam; we don the white coat of science, therefore we are correct.

"'Hard scientific evidence simply does not back up the alarmist efforts of the New York City Board of Health and others who are needlessly interfering with the fundamental constitutional rights of thousands of New Yorkers.'"



Well.

At least ONE study doesn't back it up, and it's "hardness" is questionable.

"In the Penn study, the center explains that the evidence base is substantially limited by several factors. First, the number of events - some that date back to the 1980s - is too small to establish a causal relationship."

The number of reported events is small.

But most importantly, is a large number of events needed to establish a causal relationship when the causal link is clear?

How many babies must die in order to prove that they will drown if you hold their heads underwater for too long? Or that putting a plastic bag over a child's head will result in asphixiation?

"Second, the way the cases were reported led to many questions about their validity."

We are not given an example.

"Third, important information about some of the cases is unknown, specifically the infection status of the mothers, which suggests that the disease could have been transmitted in other ways."






Here, the "researchers" are attempting to place the onus on the PARENTS, while absolving the mohels.

And what about the important information that is known?

For example, the fact that at least one mohel that engages in the practice of oral suction of a wounded child's penis, one  Yitzchok Fischer by name, tested positive for herpes? And that three other children that he circumcised contracted herpes? One of whom died?


"'This evidence has important limitations. The total number of cases is very small and was distributed across three countries and a fifteen year time frame. As with all case reports, they were identified and selected in a non-systematic manner and cannot be compared with a specific control group,' the Penn review said in reaction to one particular study."

Sure you can.

1.3 million gentile boys are circumcised yearly in this country.

How many contract herpes via their mother?

How many contract herpes, period?


"Last year, the DOH passed a regulation requiring rabbis, as a condition of performing MBP, to inform parents that the DOH advises that MBP 'should not be performed' because of its alleged risks, and to obtain the parents' signed consent. The regulation thus expressly seeks to deter New Yorkers from participating in this religious practice."


But, as indicated by two recent reported cases, the law is basically worthless; an attempt by the DOH to look busy while shirking responsibility.


"Several rabbis and Jewish groups later filed suit, arguing that the DOH regulation violates both the U.S. and the New York State constitutions. By forcing rabbis to communicate the DOH's subjective advice that MBP should not be performed, along with equally subjective views about unproven health risks, the DOH is imposing its own beliefs on others and violating the rights of the rabbis."


Nevermind the beliefs imposed on a healthy, non-consenting child by permanently disfiguring his penis.


"Moreover, the suit casts doubt on the DOH's contention that undisputed medical facts show that MBP poses a risk, a contention now further undermined by the independent Penn study."






Well.

At least Adugath hopes...

"The Department of Health would have the public believe there is an epidemic going on, which is not only untrue but irresponsible," said Dr. Brenda Breuer, PH.D., M.P.H., an expert witness in the case."

Straw-man argument; the Department of Health is not trying to convince the public that there is any kind of "epidemic," going on, but is trying to respond to the fact that many babies have been infected with herpes following traditional circumcisions that involved the practice of the oral suction of freshly circumcised babies by rabbis.


"This is a procedure the Jewish community has been performing for thousands of years without an issue, and that has not suddenly changed in the last ten years."


What has changed, however, is people's willingness to keep deaths due to circumcision secret.

And, no, while the practice of brit milah may have been around for millennia, the practice of oral suction of the fresh circumcision wound of a newborn, AKA "metzitzah b'peh" is actually a relatively recent practice. (A good reference on how the circumcision as practiced by Jews has evolved over time is "Marked in Your Flesh," by Jewish anthropologist Leonard Glick.)


Conclusion
If the practice of placing one's mouth on the circumcision wounds of children isn't transmitting the herpes virus to them, then what is?

It seems vindicating what some view as a cherished tradition was more important than actually determining how exactly children are contracting herpes.

This "study" doesn't sound very scientific at all.

How are babies contracting herpes?

Aren't a mohel that tests positive for herpes, and the fact that the lesions appear around the child's genital area enough proof to conclude that the virus was transmitted via this practice?

Apparently not.

This doesn't seem to be a concern of the "researchers" or of Agudath.

Perhaps the practice of metzitzah b'peh hasn't changed in the last 10 years, but the act of keeping silent about these matters has. Just because people were failing to report these cases, does not mean that they weren't happening, it just means that 10 years ago, people were more willing to keep silent about these matters, and the times have changed.

We'll be hearing about how the practice of Metzitzah B'peh reduces the risk of cancer and HIV transmission next...

Related Articles:

Politically Correct Research: When Science, Morals and Political Agendas Collide


NEW YORK: Two More Herpes Babies, One With HIV
NEW YORK: Yet Another Herpes Baby

Rabbis Delay NYC's Metzitzah B'Peh Regulations - Meanwhile, in Israel...
New York: Oral Mohel Tests Positive for Herpes
Herpes Circumcision Babies: Another One? Geez!
Mohels Spreading Herpes: New York Looks the Other Way
Circumcision Indicted in Yet Another Death: Rabbis and Mohels are "Upset"

Sunday, April 7, 2013

NEW YORK: Two More Herpes Babies, One With HIV


Two more baby boys have contracted herpes via ultra-orthodox Jewish practice of metzitzah b'peh, or sucking a newly circumcised child's penis with the mouth.

This time, one tested positive for HIV-1.

The New York City Department of Health deputy commissioner said it was "too early to tell" if the babies would suffer long-term health consequences from the infection.


I'm not sure what else to say.


CORRECTION:
The child in question did NOT contract HIV-1 as reported by Medical Daily. It was a misprint, as the child tested for HSV-1, which is the herpes virus.

The original report can be read here.

The Medical Daily article which has now been corrected can be read here.


This misprint is no excuse to ignore the incident; herpes being deliberately transmitted to children by otherwise intelligent adults is still a problem, and the New York City Health Department needs to stop shirking their responsibilities.


Related Articles:
NEW YORK: Yet Another Herpes Baby

Rabbis Delay NYC's Metzitzah B'Peh Regulations - Meanwhile, in Israel...

New York: Oral Mohel Tests Positive for Herpes

Herpes Circumcision Babies: Another One? Geez!

Mohels Spreading Herpes: New York Looks the Other Way

Circumcision Indicted in Yet Another Death: Rabbis and Mohels are "Upset"

Monday, March 19, 2012

Herpes Circumcision Babies: Another One? Geez!



And just when I thought I'd heard enough about mohels giving babies herpes, another report of a poor Jewish baby with herpes arises.

"Across the board, the infection rate for circumcisions is less than one half of one percent... The baby could have gotten herpes from a relative or someone in the Hospital, or many other people... You can't say for sure it was the circumcision."~Philip Sherman, "Mohel to the Stars"


I've written enough.

Will you do something about this, New York?

Please?