Friday, April 26, 2024

MEDELLÍN, COLOMBIA: Circumcision Patient Murders Urology Surgeon

 

 
Feelings of revenge by circumcised men against the doctors who circumcised them are not unheard of. In fact, poetry has been written on the subject. What is unheard of, however, is the revenge actually taking place. In this post, I'm going to post about an assassination incident that happened in Medellín, Colombia, where a patient takes matters into his own hands.
 
What I've done is taken different reports in Spanish, translated them and posted them here to give a composite picture of what happened, what people at the scene of the crime have said, as well as what the family of the assassin had to say.

The following was taken from El Tiempo:
 
 Alleged assassin urologist found lifeless in a restroom Clínica Medellín
 
Urologist Juan Guillermo Aristizábal
 
On the morning of Thursday, April 18th, Colombian urologist Juan Guillermo Aristizábal was murdered at Clínica Medellín, a clinic established in the El Poblado district in Medellín, Colombia. It happened at 10:30am, consultation room 908, when consecutive shots were heard on the 9th floor following a fire. He fired point blank, in succession against the specialist without saying a word.

"An armed person enters with a firearm and attacks a physician working in his consultation room who dies on the spot," Óscar Lamprea, comander of the Aburrá Metropolitan Police Force said. "The aggressor exits and seals himself up in another consultation room."

The incident left a woman who was the urologist's assistant wounded and is being attended in the same medical facility for a bullet wound. The woman, who has been identified as Daniela Díaz survived the incident, is recovering and is not in any critical condition.

After the shooting, those who were on site alerted the authorities whom arrived within minutes.

"There's a fire of unknown origin. The presence of somebody in the consultation room from which smoke is emerging can be confirmed. The police went in in full force. They've cleared the area but did not find anyone. When thy opened the door to the bathroom, they found a person with no signs of life, who would be the presumed aggressor with a firearm by his side," the official added.

Since there were no official captured suspects for this crime, many present were required by the authorities to get their side of the story. The police spoke with more than 10 persons who have been dismissed.

The following was taken from infobae: (information repeated above omitted)
 
Assassin patient of Juan Guillermo Aristizábal Identified
The murderer of the Medellín doctor has been identified as 38yo John Ferney Cano González, a patient who had "unwanted results." It appears the culprit intended to burn down the clinic, and then committed suicide in one of the bathrooms of the medical center.

Cano González is said to have been suffering schizophrenia. According to Juan Camilo Arango, friend and colleague of the murdered doctor, "We physicians are in a precarious situation because we're victims of constant deaths of threat and extortion blackmail, because were seen from the point of view of results, and not a means. Everyone wants to guarantee favorable results, but people forget that we're not machines, but humans attending other human beings."

Previous reports suggest that the urologist had been attacked and threatened by the same patient on previous occasions, causing the doctor to seek restraining orders to prevent Cano access to the clinic. Arango says this is relevant because it affirms that the patient attacked Aristizábal due to unfavorable results. He says "Memo" (short for Guillermo) had problems with a patient due to an adverse outcomes, because, he argues, the culprit was a psychiatric patient who blew the negative results out of proportion due to trauma or his psychiatric pathology and had threatened "Memo" for a long time.

It is speculated that, even though the patient signed the consent form for the procedure he would undergo, everything indicates that he presumably had a mental disorder.

"For medical ethics, you have to inform the patient about everything that could happen; the patient signs the document to indicate that he was fully informed, but with a psychiatric complication, he could have signed 50 consent forms and the patient would have still had a problem and acted on it. These consent forms are for legal purposes, where the rights of the patient are protected, but never the rights of the physician," said Arango, friend of the murdered doctor.

According to Arango, coincidentally, despite the fact that the doctors' assistance and the clinic already had knowledge of previous threats, "His secretary was in a medical appointment, and a different assistance who was uninformed about the matter, and it looks as if this man, the one who committed suicide, the assailant, was in a psychiatric appointment, ascended and took advantage of the moment to cause disaster."

When asked as to whether the medical facility knew about this case, Arango said "I know that the situation in which we live in this city and in the rest of the country is one of much insecurity. I imagine that the administration knew what was happening, and, as far as I know, this person was being attended here in the psychiatric department at this institution. I don't know where they could have failed."

Juan Camilo Arango, friend and colleague of the urologist alleges that the assassin was a "mental patient, and that he was at the clinic for a psychiatric appointment, but a different news report says differently; in this report by El Paíz, Jhon Ferney Cano actually sits in the waiting room and waits to be called.
 
According to the Secretary of Security for the city of Medellin, he is called by doctor's assistant Manuel Villa. He approaches Daniela Díaz, attacks her and immediately heads for consultation room 908, where 58yo urologist Juan Guillermo Aristizábal works. Cano shoots, the doctor dies. It is then he locks himself up in the consultation room and lights it on fire.

The police arrive and attempt to convince him to turn himself in. He refuses, and minutes later, the men in uniform enter by force. They inspect the room full of smoke and find Cano in the bathroom, sprawled dead on the floor with the revolver by his side.

The incident, which happened in the tourist district of El Poblado de Medellín, generated panic in and out of the clinic, which was evacuated in order to resolve the situation.

Friends and family of Aristizábal allege that this assassination was entirely preventable. They say that the doctor already knew Cano and had him referenced as a dangerous person. According to friend and colleague of the urologist, the assassin had been a patient of Aristizábal until a procedure went wrong. Arango affirms that Cano suffered psychiatric problems he never overcame.

"He exaggerated probably due to a trauma or his psychiatric pathology and he threatened the doctor over a long period of time. There were many death threats that were taken to the authorities," Arango said. Arango has a plastic surgery practice on the 7th floor of the building where the assassination happened. "He was a patient with psychiatric problems and his escape valve was Dr. Aristizábal."

Aristizábal practiced as a urologist at Clínica Medellín for over 25 years. He graduated from CES University, specializing in health and located in the capital of Antioch, where he also gave classes in neurology and semiology. He would play the drums on his free time. He was married to María Isabel Trujillo, with whom he had two children, Paulina and Miguel. Another doctor from the same clinic told El Colombiano that he would remember him as "an excellent person and great friend."

The subheading on a different report by Noticias Caracol reads "An affront to all medicine." It is this report where we finally learn that the patient was unhappy with the results of a circumcision.
 
The crime was "an affront to all of medicine in this country." says Arango. "Quite simply we doctors have been put on a tier of gods, and we're not gods, we're human beings. Medicine is not science, medicine is the art of interpreting signs and symptoms, which are different in each human being. It needs to be clear that we are human beings attending other human beings. We are not robots. We also suffer, cry, we stay up late worrying about the problems our patients have, and to be a doctor we have to have much human quality, and people are not acknowledging this; they're stigmatizing us and we're always in danger. I've personally had to face grave situations."

 
I'm not sure if my readers can read between these lines, but, to quote Queen Gertrude from Shakespeare's Hamlet; "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." Arango really wants to pin Cano as a "psychiatric patient," but this is a fabrication, and when you put together that both Arango and Aristizábal operate on healthy patients, (Arango realizes plastic surgery, and Aristizábal profits from circumcision) it becomes clear that Arango is no stranger to fending off disgruntled patients with adverse outcomes, and guilt is doing the talking.

 
In a different report, where news outlet El Colombiano has gone to the family of the assassin, who say that although he did have appointments with Aristizábal, Cano was no "psychiatric patient."
 
 
Pictured: Assassin John Ferney Cano González

Members of John Ferney Cano narrate that John Ferney was the youngest of 7 brothers, lived with his brother Alexander Cano in the same room, and tended to talk extensively about the difficult situation he was facing, and how he suffered constantly due to the adverse medical outcome of his medical procedure.

"He never told me about this action that he would take. I often think that this is all just a bad dream," said his brother Alexander, shocked by the news. "We as his family want him to be seen in the same way as the doctor."(E.g., we also suffered a loss.)

Recently, Cano's family found a 362-page-long text file on John's personal computer, where he narrates his suffering due to a circumcision, with which he justifies the medic's homicide. The document was protected with a password that after various attempts, were finally able to decipher.

Marcela Cano, John's 2nd sister, said he had a lot ahead of him. He studied 4th semesters of electronics and enjoyed activities such as basketball, and he collected guitars.

"We never expected it would all end this way for him," they shared. "The lack of medical help was due to a series of manipulations on the part of the first doctor who attended him. Initially, he was able to get appointments by way of his EPS, but then, after facing long delays, he chose to go to a private doctor." This is how he arrived at Aristizábal's office.

"It was a misdiagnosis and a bad procedure, together with lack of information that provoked two years and a half of continuous pain," said one of his sisters. John did go to many psychiatric and psychological appointments, although we was not a psychiatric patient before. On the contrary, psychological care was recommended to rule out that his problem was mental.

John's text file narrates that he was medicated with various antidepressants. After investing much money in treatment without any success, he felt abandoned by the medical system.

The problem with the uorolgist started when he tried to confront him for the consequences of the surgery. "This isn't going to stay this way," John told the doctor. After the threat, the doctor reported him and John was summoned to the prosecutor's office.

"His search for help at other urological consultation offices in Medellín was not fruitful, as the doctors he encountered didn't want to incur any responsibility for the poor procedure" said one of his sisters.

The physical pain that John would experience was not taken seriously by various physicians, who attributed his woes to mental problems, his family said. Even so, "He insisted that his pain was real and that it increased every day." After telling his brother Alexander his symptoms, he sought medical help in different places, but he faced the same evasive answers.

"It started with a pain in his penis, specifically in the urinary meatus, located at the tip. After his first revision at the EPS, they told him his pain was of mental origin, even though he insisted it was physical and it increased every day, even going as far as feeling it in his spine." This is what his brother said regarding John's symptoms.

At first, Aristizábal did not consult John directly. Instead, John first sought help with Aristizábal's teacher, whom referred him to Aristizábal after deciding to retire. According to his family, in one appointment, it was determined that John suffered anxiety due to the pain, but he also expressed feelings of revenge.

In his last days, his state deteriorated notably; he stopped eating, he became withdrawn and wouldn't say a word. It is unknown how he got the firearm he used in the crime, although it is speculated that it could have been through a past acquaintance. The whereabouts of his cell phone are unknown.

"We tended to talk late. One night, he told me the pain began as he tried to sit down; he felt a sudden pain in his back that radiated to his organs and nerves of his spine until reaching his penis. He tried to find help at various medical departments, even dermatology," the family said.

"He lost more than half of his sensation, and he could no longer be with any woman; he left his girlfriend and would not sleep. He was always repeating that he needed to get revenge. He told us, and a psychiatric doctor also kept a record. Despite filing complaints, there was negligence on the part of the Prosecutor's Office. We tried to talk to him, but he remained resolute even after the settlement hearing. That day, the doctor offered 5 million in compensation, but John didn't accept it on advice from his lawyer," his brother said.

On psychiatric observation records, the psychiatric department wrote "expresses desires of revenge." The Prosecutor's Office already knew there were threats, but was negligent. Even though we all tried talking with him, he had already made his decision and he had a clear goal. We never thought he'd actually go through with it. John said that the pain was as if there were a beehive at the end of his penis all day long.

The family's one claim was their demand for his medical history. They comment that John, in his intention to seek treatment from other places, asked for his medical history, but he was told that it had all been destroyed, and that, apparently, it no longer existed at Clínica Medellín.

The unfolding of this story, with the death of the doctor at the hands of John, has left deep pain and emotion across many families and all of the community. While John's family seeks answers and his medical history, the pain and suffering also experienced by the doctor, and other people affected by this tragedy cannot be ignored.

 
This was a difficult post to write because as I read these reports, I don't know what side to take. On the one hand, murder is murder, and I want to feel sorry for the doctor and his family, but on the other hand, I can't feel sorry knowing how evasive he was actually being. His "friend" is trying to help cover for him by trying to label the assassin as a "mental patient" and it's disgusting. If the assassin's account is correct, other doctors didn't want to touch him because of how badly the procedure was screwed up.

Questions arise. If, as Aristizábal's friend insists, the assassin was had a record of "schezophrenia," what is the reason he was not first referred to the correct department instead of asking him to sign an informed consent form? Why did he receive that form as "legit" if it was known that, allegedly, the patient didn't have full faculty? Would this not have been taking advantage of an impaired patient to get a sham consent form?
 
Was the patient actually fully informed of all the risks of adverse outcome?

Was there actually a medical necessity present warranting surgery? Or did the doctor sell John a bill of goods?

While it's true that patients can exaggerate and raise false claims, doctors also have to cover their own asses, and it is clear here that the doctor's "friend" seems worried that the patient may indeed have had a legitimate claim. There has to be a reason why he seemed intent on writing him off as a "mental patient." On the one hand, doctors do need to be protected. On the other, so do patients. Charlatans and grifters do exist, and where liability can be waived by signing a consent form, a patient can be screwed over if he was in fact, not actually fully informed, or worse yet, misinformed.

The friendly doctor here is trying to paint the situation such that doctors are "victims," but the situation is a lot more nuanced than that. Doctors who are treating sick patients, patients who have clinical indication for treatment and surgery have nothing to fear. Patients must understand that an outcome may not be favorable. But when it comes to doctors operating on the HEALTHY, the situation is rather different, because a patient who faces an adverse outcome has gone from a healthy state, one where he is not facing a problem at all, to a state were there is now an iatrogenic problem that wasn't there in the first place, and there are reasons why doctors who perform circumcisions may not be fully informing their patients as to the negative outcomes, namely that they reap profit from the procedure.
 
 

 
 
If this man was fully informed, he should have understood what he was getting himself into. On the other hand, it is problematic if doctors are in a position where they can perform surgery without fully informing, or even misinforming their patients of adverse outcomes, and be immune to lawsuits having obtained a sham consent form from patients.
 
While I can't condone men shooting the doctors who circumcise them, laws do need to change, but not in the may Arango hopes; it's patients who need to be given the power to sue doctors who didn't fully inform them. Doctors need to be absolutely sure their patients understand the ramifications of surgery to alter normal, healthy tissue. If it can be proven that a patient was not fully informed of an adverse outcome, or that he was deceived in a court of law, patients need to be awarded damages. And, if they are left in a situation where doctors can get away with performing surgery on healthy, non-consenting individuals, patients are being defrauded, it should be of no surprise if patients decide to take matters into his own hands.

One often hears that the complications of male circumcision are "next to none," but this is only what is said. In 2012, the American Academy of Pediatrics conducted an extensive review of the whole of medical literature regarding the topic of male circumcision and concluded that the medical benefits are "not enough" to recommend the procedure for all infants. Furthermore, they concluded that "the true incidence of complications after circumcision remain unknown.", and it must be asked "Why?" It must be asked, in a reality where the true incidence of complications after circumcision are unknown, how is it even possible that parents and patients can be making informed decisions? When patients and/or their parents sign a consent form, what does it actually mean? Well, in this story we see a glimpse.

When there are adverse effects, medical organizations are loathe to acknowledge them and treat them as if they didn't exist. Doctors and hospitals would rather say it's "mental" than to admit that a problem is due to the procedure they're conducting. Doctors and hospitals keep deferring and passing the buck, hoping the problem goes away. Often the only recourse patients have is to give up and suffer in silence, or, in worse case scenarios, act out as the young man did in this story. The problems are ignored, and thus the lie that "the risks of circumcision are minimal" continues to be repeated.

Again, I'm not saying it was justified to kill this doctor, but when a young man is left with half sensitivity in his penis gone, the sensation of having a beehive at the end of his penis all day, and doctors and hospitals minimizing his problem and gaslighting him by telling him his problems have nothing to do with the procedure that obviously gave him his problems, calling him a "schizophrenic mental case," what recourse does a young man have? Who is holding doctors who get away with medical fraud accountable?

This isn't the first case of a man unhappy with his circumcision. There are countless stories of men confronting doctors who circumcised them, only to be told that "it's all in their head," only a few of which actually make headlines. Tragically, it took a murder for this man's problems to make headlines. How many other men suffer in silence?

Two cases come to mind:


The above two stories can be accessed here and here.

"But that's only two," some might say. Yes. Two that made the news. As demonstrated here, others suffer in silence, being gas lit into believing their pain and and anguish has nothing to do with the fact one of the most sensitive parts of their penises has been sliced off.
 
Finally, the Global Survey of Circumcision Harm is another testament to this fact.

The bottom line is, while this doctor's murder and this patient's suicide were tragedies, medical organizations need to acknowledge that circumcision can and does result in adverse outcomes, patients need to be fully informed before being asked to sign a consent form, and fraudulent doctors who profit from non-medical procedures on healthy, non-consenting individuals need to be held accountable.

Links:
 
 
 
 
 


Friday, January 5, 2024

"I Said Stop!!!" - Is Orgasm Too Intense for Circumcised Men?

 

This is going to be a little bit different than most other blog posts I write.

Usually, I post to report some finding or to comment on something.

But for this, admittedly, it's uncharted territory, it's more of an inquiry and an invitation for people to share their experiences.

I'm going to come out and say that I have by biases as an intactivist.

As far as I know, male circumcision was taken up by Western Medicine during the Victorian period as a possible solution to masturbation, which was seen as the root of all evil. Circumcision was supposed to desensitize the penis, making it difficult to masturbate, and, if research is correct, that's precisely what it does.

Circumcision necessarily results in the desensitization of the penis, because it removes hundreds if not thousands of specialized nerve endings, and the exposed glans and surrounding mucosa become dry and develop a layer of keratin over time in a process called keratinization. It is a well-known fact that circumcised men often find it difficult to masturbate without artificial lubrication, such as K-Y Jelly or Vaseline.

 


 

Sorrells et al found that circumcised penises become desensitized by a factor of 4.

It had long been established and well-documented that circumcision diminished sensation and made it difficult to masturbate. This was the whole reason for its adaptation.

And yet, here and there, I have often heard circumcised men comment to the effect that "I don't need any more sensation. If I had any more sensation I'd have a heart attack!"

For the longest time I wanted to ignore such men, because in my head, I thought they were merely playing Aesop's fox to sour grapes.

 


 "They're bluffing," I thought.

"They must be overcompensating for the fact that they're circumcised and there's nothing they can do about it," or so I thought.

It's impossible.

They can't possibly be feeling the sensations they say they do. How could they?

But then I started talking to my circle of friends. People who had gone around the block. Female friends, male gay friends, and they all talked about a particular phenomenon that they had experienced with circumcised sex partners.

This wasn't the case with every circumcised man, as men are cut differently. Some men are cut loose, others as tight as a drum, and then some men have more, some have less sensitive inner mucosa left, others have retained their frenulum, others not, so every man is different.

Still, I kept hearing about this phenomenon where, a friend would be having sex with a circumcised man, or s/he would be performing fellatio on him, and things would be going well. But all of a sudden, there is this sudden rise of intensity, the circumcised man orgasms, ejaculates, and all of a sudden he does not want to be touched.

My friends would report that after being mounted, often times what will happen is, the guy gets off, rolls over and, instead of cuddling, the guy pushes his partner away. While my friends reported they'd like to stay together, spoon, hug, etc., their partners would often rather not want to be touched.

One of my friends said that one time, she was fellating a partner, there was that sudden jump in intensity, her partner climaxed and ejaculated, but she wanted to continue fellating him. She said he yelled "I said STOP!!!", as he pushed her away.

This is the darndest thing.

Just recently, I was having conversations about sex with two different male friends. One of them is gay, the other one is straight, both cut. It occurred to me to ask them about their experience with their partners. I asked them if they had experienced what I'm talking about, and they both answered with a resounding "YES."

One friend, the straight one, told me that, he feels rather desensitized for the most part. When a woman is going down on him, he says he has to ask her to suck hard like a vacuum cleaner, because otherwise he can't feel anything. He says that the intensity will build up, but it rises suddenly, very suddenly, he'll orgasm, ejaculate, but he has to ask his partner to stop, because oftentimes they like to keep going. It's as if, after orgasm, his penis becomes super extra sensitive and he can't handle anyone touching it.

My gay friend, who is a top, tells me that he'll be penetrating a partner, but then once he orgasms, "It comes to be too much," he says. He says his partners often want him to stay inside, but this is something he's had to "work" on. Otherwise he too wants to pull out as soon as possible and demand to be left alone for a while, while it wears off. I ask him what he thinks it could be, and he said that perhaps its that circumcision may have "re-wired" his penis. This would make sense; circumcision severs the nerves connected to the foreskin, and after this, the nerves would have to reconfigure themselves to fire differently, wouldn't they.

I don't know how this works; it sounds like something researchers should definitely be looking into.

For me this seems something like a paradox. On the one hand, men circumcised men become desensitized. But at the same time, some men seem to become super sensitive after orgasm. This must be what circumcised men mean when they say "I couldn't handle more sensitivity than I have now."

I for one can't identify with this experience; after orgasm, I prefer to stay as deep and as close to my wife as possible and I would never push her away.

But how widespread is this phenomenon?

This can't happen with every circumcised guy.

Can it?

Is this something scientists and researchers need to be looking into?

If it negatively impacts intimate experiences with partners, I should hope so.

It would be interesting to hear what other people's experiences are.

I invite you to please comment below.

Related Links:

Male Infant Circumcision is Genital Mutilation
 
Male Infant Circumcision Has No Basis in Modern Medicine
 
External Links:
 
Fine-touch pressure thresholds in the adult penis
 
Male circumcision decreases penile sensitivity as measured in a large cohort

Thursday, January 4, 2024

@Joseph4GI Suspended for "Harassment"

 

"Truth suppress'd, whether by courts or crooks, will find an avenue to be told."
~Sheila Steele

I've been locked out of #Twitter / #X before.

And it's always the same, isn't it; if the people who want to silence you can somehow construe what you have said as "harassment," then they can have you silenced.

The funny thing is, I think I know who did it, and if it's the person I think it is, then it's ironic.

It's a person who has the Twitter/X user handle @JulesMagaGirl.

Yes, she's a "MAGA" girl?

You know?

The kind of people that go on and on about "cancel culture?"

Well, it sounds like one of the anti- #cancelculture crowd is engaging in the very thing she says she hates.

A few days ago, I got notification that my X/Twitter account was suspended because one of my Tweets was labeled "harassment," and I was given the option to either delete the Tweet or appeal. I appealed, and I got the notification back that my appeal was refused, and I appealed again, because I know that the Tweet is not "harassment" as it is claimed.

It may be the last of my Twitter account, because I know for a fact that what I tweeted is not "harassment," and I sure as heck am not deleting the Tweet.

I'd like to use this blog post to make the case that Twitter/X does not allow me to make. I'm not sure if I'm caught by an automated system, or if there is a live person on Twitter trying to FORCE me to remove the tweet that is keeping my account suspended.

It went like this:

This user, @JulesMagaGirl had been arguing back and forth on a Twitter thread about circumcision being mutilation, and I happened to be part of it.

The user typically proceeds to post all the usual alibis and excuses for forcibly slicing off part of a healthy, non-consenting child's penis.

It's "healthy," "cleaner," it "prevents STDs," all the usual stuff.

But in one tweet, she tries to argue that male infant circumcision "does not have to do with genitals."

I can't remember exactly what was said because I CAN'T ACCESS MY ACCOUNT, but she actually tries to say "Male infant circumcision is not in any way cutting away any part of the genitals."

To which I post the following tweet:

 
 
Highlighted in my Tweet: "Those look like genitals to me..."

This is the Tweet that got me suspended from my account.

This is what passes for "harassment" in the eyes of some Twitter/X hall monitor.

If you look closely, all it is is just a rebuttal to the girl's claim that circumcision "doesn't remove anything from the genitals."

The tweet includes a clear picture of a circumcision.

 


It should be obvious to anyone with eyeballs and two brain cells to rub together that circumcision clearly removes tissue from the genitals.

Where else could circumcision be removing anything from?

The nose?

The chin?

The knee?

@JulesMagaGirl is clearly delusional, as the fact that circumcision is clearly an act of male genital mutilation is clear as day from the picture I posted.

The thread goes on and on with other attempts at arguments that @JulesMagaGirl tries to make.

Parental choice. (Which would also apply to FGM.)

Retention of the ability to orgasm. (Also true of FGM.)

Retention of the ability to procreate. (Also true of FGM.)

All the usual canned stuff.

But the above Tweet is the one that got me cancelled.

I'm still waiting for that appeal, because as it is easy for anyone to see, I have not engaged in any "harassment," unless the "harassment" is adequate rebuttal to poor arguments.

At this point I need to ask, @elonmusk, what is the meaning of this?

Is this conversation not allowed on X/Twitter?

Kind of disappointing as I thought that free speech had returned to X/Twitter.

Apparently not.

Anyway, since X/Twitter will not allow me to make my case to them directly, I thought I'd post it here.

Very disappointed, Mr. Musk, very disappointed.

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