Sunday, November 17, 2019

Death Grip and Circumcision: Is There a Correlation?

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WARNING: This post focuses on masturbation and shows illustrations of it, as well as close-up, non-sexual pictures of penises. The blogger gives a graphic, personal account of his experiences with masturbation.


Are you choking the chicken a little too hard? You might be.

We're in the middle of November. Or, as some would like to coin it, "No Nut November."
"No Nut November" is a time when men abstain from masturbation for a number of reasons.
Some organizations like NoFap encourage abstinence from masturbation to "overcome porn addiction."

Others believe that masturbation itself can be an addiction, and that No Nut November is a good time to demonstrate to yourself that you are "master of your domain."

There is yet another reason why some men may choose to abstain for a time, and that is to overcome what has come to be known as "death grip."

What Is Death Grip?
The term "death grip" as it pertains to masturbation was originally coined by sex columnist Dan Savage.

Sex Columnist Dan Savage

In all honesty, it's not something that has been officially recognized, but it describes a condition where men masturbate in a way that is too aggressive, so aggressive that it may be negatively affecting their sex life with their partners, if not affecting the way they enjoy masturbation.


It has spawned many an article on the internet, and even its own Wikipedia entry.
Some men develop a masturbation technique that applies too much pressure on the penis. They grasp their penis with a tighter and tighter grip, until they get used to extreme sensations, such as the heavy pressure and rough friction that are only possible with a tight grip during masturbation, to the point where actual sex with a partner may be difficult. Skeptics dismiss "death grip" as a just anorgasmia, but it isn't so simple; men who report using "death grip" to masturbate report that they can still experience pleasure, but that a vagina feels "too loose" and even fellatio does not provide enough pleasure to result in orgasm.

What Causes Death Grip?
It is not known for certain what causes this phenomenon, but people attribute the condition to different causes.

Too Much Porn
It may be the case that with the free availability of pornography on the internet, men have become used to extreme, unrealistic fantasies portrayed in the artificial setting porn, to the point that normal, real-life average sex isn't so exciting. For this reason, organizations like NoFap encourage men to abstain from pornography.

Too Much Masturbation
This looks like it may be linked to pornography, but it isn't always the case; it is possible to masturbate without pornography.

When men go through puberty and become sexually active (e.g., begin to masturbate) sex is not usually readily available. A young man will have learned to masturbate, and masturbate hundreds of times to sexual fantasies he invents, before finally coming into contact with pornography and eventually sex with an actual real-life partner happens for him. He may develop an aggressive masturbatory technique in the interim that may desensitize him to the sensations of a looser vagina.

Taboo Surrounding Masturbation
For better or for worse, masturbation is still a rather taboo subject nobody wants to admit they do, let alone have an honest discussion about. Young men may not be aware that they might be masturbating in a way that could be detrimental to their future sex lives, they're too afraid to ask others about it, and others stay away from this topic of conversation.

Young men learn quickly that speed and stealth are the name of the game; masturbation is to be conducted in a quick, hushed manner, always in secret, always hurried so as to not be discovered by mom, dad or siblings. This being the case, men learn masturbation techniques for the purpose of ending the masturbation as quickly and as quiet as possible, not necessarily for the prolonged enjoyment of pleasurable sensations. Therefore they develop tight grips and aggressive friction techniques that result in the instant and intense sensations needed for quick release.

Supine vs Prone Masturbation - My Personal Story
Your blogger is going to come out to you and say that he himself has experienced trouble with orgasm, both during masturbation and with partnered sexual intercourse. I learned that I was masturbating in a strange and detrimental way since I was about 16, and I have been researching the topic of anorgasmia, benign and detrimental masturbation technique since.

I'd like to begin my story with how I was raised; I grew up in a very conservative, very Christian household where conversations about sex, let alone masturbation, were not allowed. I grew up around a number of male cousins. As children, we would look for opportunities to show each other our penises and what we could do with them. We would find private, secluded places to urinate with each other and show each other our erections. I remember that age 3 or 4, one of my cousins could already fully retract his foreskin to reveal the purple, shiny head of his penis. I remember being transfixed by this act, and I remember feeling like something was wrong with my penis because I couldn't do that, and it hurt to try. Incidentally, my foreskin didn't become retractable until I was 8 or 9.

One day, we were at my aunt's house, in a room, showing each other our penises, when my aunt came in and saw what was happening. She immediately found a belt and started spanking all of us. She told us we were sick and dirty and that we were not to show each other our penises ever again. This alone should sum up to my readers what attitudes concerning sex and masturbation were like in my family. From then on, I learned that there was something wrong with others seeing my penis, and that it had to stay in my pants at all times save for using the bathroom or taking a bath.

I discovered self-pleasure at the age of 8 out on my school playground by complete accident. One day at school, I was playing on one of those huge wooden apparatuses often installed in a large sandbox, complete with monkey bars, bridges, slides and sloping logs.

It was something like this, but with sand.

The bell marking the end of morning recess had rung, and I needed get back down to go and line up with my class. I got onto the nearest log I could, with my penis up against it, and I slid down not even thinking about it. As I slid down, this intense wave of pressure started burning itself from my crotch, slowly engulfing my whole body. The orgasm was so intense I lost consciousness. By the time I woke back up, all the classes had already lined up and gone back into their classrooms. I was embarrassed to arrive at my classroom late; the teacher was asking where I was and she couldn't believe it when I told her that I "fell asleep" at the sandbox.

From that day on, I was on a quest to recreate those sensations again. I learned very quickly from the other teachers that there was something wrong with humping the logs at school. I had to move operations to underneath the sandbox; I learned to hump the sand. I couldn't wait until playtime. I could hide under the wooden apparatus, hump the sand and nobody would know. At home, I learned I had to hide underneath the bed and hump the carpet, because my mom told me if I kept humping the couch arms that my guts would spill out my penis.

Looking back, how I learned to masturbate resulted in a sort of excommunication from my peers. Words like "masturbation" and "jacking off" sounded alien to me. At church, I would often hear sermons about how boys and men shouldn't masturbate. I used to have this sort of pride in myself because I believed I never masturbated. Why would I believe I ever did? I never touched myself. I wasn't a nasty boy like all the others. At school, other boys would ask me "Do you jack off?" "Jack off?" I'd ask. "Yeah. You know..." and they would do the classic, familiar motion with a fist.


I didn't know what they were talking about then. I didn't do what they did. I'd say "You're gross. I don't do that." Little did I know...

It wasn't until I was approaching my late teens when I started discovering things on the internet... puberty... circumcision... masturbation... you know, the usual stuff.

I would discover that I was an outlier, and that not only was I always masturbating and just didn't know it, I didn't masturbate in the way most boys and men did. I read on a few websites that men who masturbated by humping pillows and mattresses, otherwise known as the "prone" position, often had trouble when having sexual intercourse with a partner, so I wanted to correct this.

Masturbating in the "prone" position


The more I thought about it, the more I wanted to learn to masturbate how other guys did. More and more, I saw the way I masturbated as a disadvantage. The way I masturbated, I could only masturbate if I was in a room with a rug or a carpet; cold tiled floors were a no-go. A bathroom was ideal since I could easily lock the door for privacy, but if there were no rugs, I'd be SOL.

I was a teen through the 90's, a time of desktop computer towers with large heavy screens, separate mice and keyboards hooked up to dial-up America On-Line accounts. If I wanted to masturbate to porn, I needed to bring down the computer screen to my level (down to the floor), or use printed material. That or simply imagine sexy scenes in my head. I had to sign into America On-Line and hope nobody picked up the phone. It was cumbersome to bring down the large heavy CRT monitor, mouse and keyboard every time I wanted to masturbate to porn. It had to be a day when no one was home and I was sure not to be walked on, unless I wanted to explain why the monitor, mouse and keyboard were on the floor.

So having read many websites about this topic, I wanted to start trying to masturbate in the good ol' fashioned way. I remember that taking my hand and moving my fist up and down did almost nothing for me. I tried many times, but I would always revert to humping the carpet. I would do this completely flaccid and with pants on, by the way. The way I masturbated, I had to learn to wait until my erection died down, and I could position my crotch with my flaccid penis up against the carpet to hump up and down. After many attempts to masturbate my erect member with my hand, I came to the realization that I couldn't masturbate like most guys did. It made me feel like a freak. It felt almost like when I didn't know how to ride a bike or whistle.

Then I read on a website, I can't remember which one, that it's possible to learn to masturbate sitting face up with the hand, otherwise known as the "supine position" if one abstained for a few days before trying. No touching the penis, no looking at porn, nothing. And then, after a while, sit down and learn to appreciate subtle sensations. So I decided to try doing that.
How most men masturbate: "supine" position

College was approaching, and I decided I didn't want to start life as a college student with that problem, so I made it a point to abstain for like 15 days and learn to masturbate "the right way" once and for all. During my first month as a freshman, I decided to have a masturbation session while my roommate was away. I started touching myself, and I started imagining sexy thoughts. I remember it took a while, and I remember it was the strangest sensation to approach orgasm with my hard penis in my hand. I was used to orgasming and ejaculating while humping the floor, completely soft, but this was different. I remember it taking a long time because I just wasn't used to it.

After a long, long time, and me vigorously pumping away, I finally allowed myself to cum. I had no idea how I'd handle it. Being intact, I would always cum in my foreskin. My pants were up the whole time (it's not necessary to undress when humping the floor, making it all that much more convenient), so I didn't have to deal with a mess. I'd just go to the bathroom afterwards, stand over the toilet, unzip, pull my foreskin back and let all the cum drip into the bowl. This time, I had cum all over my hands and clothes. It was the first time in my life that I ever ejaculated while having an erection. I remember it was exciting for me because up until that point, I had never witnessed my penis shoot sperm with my own eyes.

But that excitement was to be short lived, because I heard my roommate put the key in the knob to unlock it, and I had to pull my covers over me and pretend I was asleep until he left. I think he might have been able to tell that the room smelt of cum.

I experienced a mixture of feelings; excitement at finally having been able to masturbate with my hand, relief at finally achieving my goal, embarrassment at almost being "caught," grossness and helplessness at remembering I had no choice but to pull my covers over and onto my cum-covered body, and a bit of anger at my roommate for coming back earlier than expected, even though this was completely my fault and should have made sure he wasn't coming back soon. But all in all, I felt relieved that I was finally able to masturbate the way most other guys did. That night, I had a huge load (pun absolutely intended) of laundry to do.

The story doesn't end there, though.

I had learned to masturbate with my hand, but it still took forever, as I still wasn't used to masturbating this way. So while I could cum on a dime when it came to humping the floor, it took me ages to reach orgasm using my hand. It took forever, and I was squeezing so hard my penis hurt after masturbation every time. I had weaned myself off of humping the floor, but now I had, what I now know as "death grip."

Fast-forward to when I started having sex with partners, and the problem reared its ugly head; while it felt fulfilling to have sex with my girlfriend, it was simply fact that I did "take forever," as it were. The best sensations, at the time, were of me humping the floor, better than even "death grip" masturbation. I had to do something.

How do experts recommend getting rid of Death Grip?
Having read different resources on this topic, I noticed that there are some suggestions by experts that keep recurring.

The first thing many experts recommend is making it a point to change ones' masturbation habits. This should be easy enough, but from the experience of someone who has struggled through this, it's easier said than done. It requires making a conscious effort and patience. Becoming frustrated with not seeing immediate results, it's always easy to revert to old habits to achieve that gratification one already knows how to get so easily, so it's important to resolve to make it a point to make a change, and to keep toward that goal.

The second thing many experts recommend is a long, sustained period of abstinence before attempting to start changing one's masturbation habits. During this abstinence period, a man shouldn't look at porn, or even touch himself in a sexual way. The idea is that a man has become accustomed to intense visual and physical stimuli (e.g. extreme sexual fantasies that only exist in porn, and the extremely high pressure of a tightly clenched fist on the penis), and so his thresholds of stimuli must be "reset."

NoFap calls this "rebooting the brain to factory settings."

Finally, experts recommend, having gone through that period of abstinence, to actually learn healthy masturbation habits. From this moment on, a man has to make it a point to masturbate and achieve orgasm only in the supine position, if he used to masturbate prone. Instead of a tight grip, a man should masturbate learning to listen to and enjoy the subtle sensations of light touch. Men are encouraged to use lubrication and a lighter grip that more closely resembles the soft tissues of the vagina. Some websites recommend using a penetrative sex toy that allows a man to mimic vaginal sex, such as a Fleshlight.

Still other experts recommend men learn to masturbate in the absence of porn. Instead, of masturbating while watching porn, they recommend watching it, but then turning it off and masturbate using only the imagination. 

"Don't touch yourself while you watch porn. Soak up the images, saver it and get crazy turned on. Then, turn off the laptop, go to another room and replay the images in your mind while you masturbate. This allows you to tune more into the sensations in your penis, without the distraction from all the input to your eyes," says certified sex coach Sarah Martin, MA.

I think this is an important point, because a dependency on pornography limits a man in the sense that, he can only ever masturbate if he has a laptop or porn mags. I myself don't think there's anything wrong with pornography, but I don't want to have to depend on it to get off.

All experts agree that teaching the body to enjoy new and less intense stimulation will take time and patience. If you feel yourself reverting to old habits, you have to learn to have the will power to stop and not allow yourself to go back. 

The Conclusion to My Story
I was eventually able to wean myself off of using the floor to masturbate, but I still had this lingering problem of not having full control of my orgasms. From time to time, I still found myself resorting to "death grip." It's embarrassing to admit, but sometimes I took forever to orgasm with my wife. On more than one occasion we had to stop because it wasn't going anywhere.

I had heard of NoFap and No Nut November, and I already knew that at some point or another, I needed to commit myself to a "reboot" period if I was serious about relearning how to masturbate.

So last year, last November, I told myself "this is it." I decided that for at least once in my life, I was going to abstain for 30 days, and that it was going to be November of 2018.For 30 days, I abstained from any sexual activity; no masturbation, no touching myself, nothing.

By the end, after 30 days of fighting back the urge to masturbate, I was curious about what masturbation was going to feel like. Marked on my calendar was the night of the 30th when I would break my masturbation fast. "Bate-fast" I'd like to call it.

I swear I had never felt my erection so huge in my hands, and I had never been so sensitive. I wasn't gripping, I wasn't rushing, and I felt I had full control of when I was about to orgasm. Call it the feeling of success, call it "just relief after 30 days," but I must say that after 30 days of absolutely no sexual activity, I had the most sensational masturbation session, possibly the best ever in my whole life.

Not only was my masturbation experience better than ever, this also translated to better sex with my wife. I became convinced that abstaining from masturbation can actually be a good thing.

The moral of the story is that how a man learns to masturbate could influence whether or not he develops detrimental self-pleasure techniques, and ultimately, how he has sex with a partner.

I think that if men would be allowed to discuss masturbation openly with one another, the world would be a better place. If men discussed how they masturbated, and maybe even mentored each other on benign and detrimental ways of masturbating, perhaps they would learn how to avoid problems such as "death grip" and improve their solo, as well as partnered sex lives.

I admit this could sound creepy to some, but in retrospect, I really wish someone would have talked to me about masturbation. I wish somebody would have told me "You're doing it wrong. You should try masturbating how most men do it." I think it would have saved me lots of trouble.

Circumcised vs Intact
There is still one more elephant-in-the-room factor that I believe may contribute to the development of "death grip" and that is circumcision status.

It had been long known since the time of John Harvey Kellogg that circumcision made masturbation difficult. It was known for longer than that, as Rabbi Maimonides wrote in his book "A Guide for the Perplexed" that circumcision was supposed to render the male organ to make it "as quiet as possible."



Moses "Rambam" Maimonides (1135-1204)
"...with regard to circumcision, one of the reasons for it is, in my opinion, the wish to bring about a decrease in sexual intercourse and a weakening of the organ in question, so that this activity be diminished and the organ be in as quiet a state as possible"~"A Guide for the Perplexed" Part III, Chapter 49, Page 609
Circumcision may contribute to a desensitization of the penis, because it removes the most sensitive part of the penis. Sorrells et al. measured sensitivity along different points of the penis in intact and circumcised men, and found published their findings in the British Journal of Urology.

 Findings by Sorrells et al.: Circumcision removes the most sensitive part of the penis.


On their Death Grip article, Men's Health says "There may be a link to masturbation with death grip and penile nerve damage, but there currently isn't enough scientific data to support this conclusion."

This is an interesting passage, because it is simply irrefutable fact that circumcision is deliberate nerve damage; it is the cutting away of the most sensitive of nerves on the penis. In addition to removing sensitive areas on the penis, the lack of a foreskin causes the mucosal tissue of the glans and remaining inner part of the foreskin to become dried out and hardened in a process called "keratinization," which could result in further desensitizing the penis.

The glans in intact and circumcised penes

With all this nerve removal and keritinization, could it be that men are developing aggressive masturbation techniques as a result of being circumcised?
Could there a correlation?

I don't know. As I've already let readers know, I experienced this phenomenon of "death grip" and a difficult time reaching orgasm by manual masturbation and with a partner, even though I'm not circumcised, so it may be possible that both intact and circumcised men may be susceptible to this phenomenon, albeit to different degrees.

The world may never know until scientists decide to break with taboo and actually investigate this. It's nearly 2020 and people STILL have hangups about sex and masturbation.

Take My Twitter Poll!
It may not amount to much, if anything this could be a good start for other interested researchers to follow, but for now, I'm conducting a quick Twitter poll asking for men to self-report whether or not they are struggling with "death grip" and their circumcision status.

Current stats show it’s a slightly bigger problem with circumcised men. (21% circumcised vs 9% intact men) But 33 respondents is a tiny sample size; it would be great if more men responded. The poll closes in 1 day. Readers, if you can, please vote, and please retweet/share this link where possible. (See Below)
Original Post on Death Grip:


Related Posts:
Death Grip and Circumcision: Is There a Correlation?

Joseph4GI's Twitter Penis Poll Results

External Links 
Men's Health Death Grip Article

Monday, October 7, 2019

Joseph4GI's Twitter Penis Poll Results




Welp, after approximately seven days (the maximum length allowed for a Twitter poll), the results for my Twitter penis polls are finally in.

Let me just say, the results are not what I hoped they had been.

Not that I was wishing for them to be one way or another, after all, these polls were meant to find one thing, and one thing only; the truth.

No, what I mean by this is that, for one, I wish I would have had larger sample sizes, which would have lent more credibility to the results; with only a few respondents on some questions, the results mean almost nothing.

Before I share the results of my polls, I'd like to address their shortcomings.

For one, there are some questions which I probably could have worded better.

One of the biggest limitations constricting the effectiveness of these polls are the limited options Twitter users have when creating polls:

  • Only 4 answers are possible
  • Each answer has a short character limit.
  • One question per poll

For this reason, I had to word the options in a funky manner, and I had to lump in different things together.

I also feel Twitter might be shadow banning me, limiting the visibility of these polls on the Twittersphere.



Another factor that may have contributed to the mixed results in these polls is the fact that I had to create a separate poll for each question, making all of the questions disconnected and disjointed; a problem I sought to remedy by unifying all the poll questions in one blog post like I did, and then posting a link to that.

Still, given the different number of respondents for each poll, it seems not everyone answered all of the questions, so the data is rather incomplete. And yet others may not have actually voted using the Tweet option, and instead decided to respond directly to the Tweets themselves, if not to the blog post I posted them on (see comments).

Perhaps using a different polling option was in order, one that made sure respondents answered all the questions, and allowed fields for respondents to give more detailed replies.

Without Further Ado... the Results


Lube Usage Poll
These first poll questions were touched off by another poll I saw on Twitter.

It has long been suspected that circumcised men use lubrication a lot more than their intact counterparts for sexual activity including sexual intercourse and masturbation, due to the fact that circumcision removes the foreskin which covers the glans and keeps the glans and space between the glans moist and supple, leading to keritanization and drying out of the head of the penis and surrounding mucosa.

Here is what my Twitter poll said:





Of 91 circumcised respondents or their partners, 37% said that commercial lubrication was essential. 24% said they use it often but isn't essential, while 15% of them said they only use it sometimes. 24% of them said they never use it.

Compare that with 64 intact respondents or their partners, only 9% of which said that commercial lubrication was essential. While 5% said they often use it, and 25% of them said they only use it occasionally, 61% of them said they never use lubrication.

The sample size is small, but if these results mean anything, it sounds like it simply is true; circumcised men use lubrication a lot more than intact men.

A few people commented that it would have been better to separate sex and masturbation, because, at least with gay men, many use lubrication as a matter of course, regardless of whether or not the penetrative partner was circumcised. One intact person commented that his female partner is menopausal, she doesn't produce enough of her own natural lubrication, so they use commercial lubrication.

A few others commented on the wording; "commercial lubrication" may exclude other forms of lubrication, such as coconut oil or saliva, so including the words "other forms of lubrication" may have yielded different results.

ED Aid Poll



Another common assumption is that, since circumcised men become desensitized over time, they would be more likely to experience ED in older age, and thus use drugs and devices to aid in maintaining an erection.

Thus I created the following poll:





I was expecting to see more circumcised men and/or their partners to answer "essential" for this question, but I was surprised to find that intact and circumcised respondents answered more or less the same, with slightly more intact men indicating that the use of Viagra or pumps to be "essential," (13% intact vs 9% circumcised) and more circumcised men indicating "never" than intact men. (77% circumcised vs 60% intact)

Again, some respondents contacted me privately to tell me that they use pumps and rings even though they don't experience ED, simply because it feels good to them to use these devices, so it may have been better to separate drug and device usage.

Also, the sample sizes were much smaller than in the first question, and there were more intact men in the older ranges, which might have something to do with it.

It is what it is.

Have you seen your father's Penis?


I made this poll, because a rationale often used to justify male infant circumcision is that a boy must look like his father, and that a boy being different than his father might create animosity between them.

Intactivists often say that a boy is not likely to see his father naked, and that even if this happened, a child is more likely to notice other things first, such as the bigger size, presence of pubic hair, etc.

Here is what my polls said:


Add up all the "yesses," and a whopping 67% of 71 respondents said they saw their father's penis. If this is any indication, most could actually tell their father's circumcision status, while a small percentage never really looked close or couldn't tell. If you include the 3% that couldn't tell their father's circumcision status, that's 46% of men as children who weren't really interested in looking at their father's penis. (I wonder how many wanted to...)

So yes, it looks like boys who see their father naked will be likely to notice their father's circumcision status.

In retrospect, I could have worded this question differently; only boys who have a different circumcision status than their father would notice there is a difference, because most boys wouldn't know what circumcision is in the first place unless parents took the time to educate them about it.

I suspect that of the respondents who "could tell" their father's circumcision status, circumcision status may have been different. Otherwise, they couldn't tell, or it wouldn't be such an outstanding thing to notice.

It bears repeating that, in the early days when circumcision wasn't a thing, and doctors were beginning to circumcise baby boys, circumcision status would be different between father and son, and this was not a consideration as a possible "problem." It's interesting how now that parents are considering leaving their children's penises alone, doctors are suddenly "concerned."



So there you have it; most respondents who saw their fathers' penis did so within 1 to 10 years of age.


There were only 21 respondents, but most of them, 38%, thought that size was the most outstanding thing about their father's penis, followed by the presence of pubic hair (24%). Circumcision came in third (19%), while a small percentage of respondents didn't think much one way or the other.

So size and the presence of pubic hair was more noticeable to my respondents than circumcision status.

Once again, this could have been a larger sample size.



Only 7 respondents for this question, but, for what it's worth, none of them seem to think that being different from their fathers affected them in a negative way. Over half were able to bond with their fathers despite having different circumcision statuses, still, for the others, it didn't really matter.

There was probably a better way I could have worded this; it could be said that "he was still a dick" might be a negative thing. Still, it is possible that a relationship between a father could sour in spite of same or different circumcision status.

Locker Room Poll


This poll was also touched off by an oft-used rationale for circumcising a son; "If you don't circumcise him, he'll be made fun of in the locker room."

Here are the results:


A sad 15 votes, of whom 73% said they experienced being naked with other men in a locker room on a regular basis.


12 respondents (should have been 15), half of which said they experienced regular locker room nudity in Jr high and high school. Again, this is such a tiny sample size; I wish others would have voted.

Of 21 respondents, 67% said no one ever commented on their intact status. 14% experienced the occasional comment, while 5% were made fun of initially, but not after that. 14% said guys often made fun of them. I wonder where this was... that was the point of the next poll:



Only 11 respondents for this one, more than half of which were from the East Coast. (Intact men? In the East Coast? Wonders never cease.)

Perhaps another question for ethnicity might have been in order. Again, these would be constrained to 4 due to Twitter's limitations, so I might not have been able to garner much.

Conclusion
So in these were the results, and again, I beseech the reader to consider that these polls were rather informal, and your blogger acknowledges their limitations.

I repeat that, I hope that this is a starting point for others; hopefully others, more rigorous than myself, can take my ideas and create better polls and gather more meaningful data from more significant sample sizes than I ever could, and provide more accurate insights for the discussion of considerations for male infant circumcision.

Related Post:
Original Penis Poll Post

Sunday, September 29, 2019

Joseph4GI's Twitter Penis Polls


Touched off by a poll regarding penile lubrication and circumcised men I saw on Twitter, I decided to start my own series of polls, just for fun.

Originally, my intention was to make a better poll that included intact men, but then I thought, well why not try other fun stuff as well?

Circumcision Status and Use of Artificial Lubrication
The first poll concerns lubrication and circumcision status.

It is often assumed that circumcised men are more than likely to use artificial lubrication, such as KY jelly or other material, for sexual activity, including insertive intercourse with a partner and/or masturbation, than intact men.

There might be some truth to this, as the mucous membranes of the glans and inner foreskin remnants of the circumcised penis are dried out, hardened and rough due to the layers of keratin built up over time, while in the intact male, these are moist and supple.




So how true is this?

To see how true this assumption is, I posted the following poll questions on Twitter:

Poll A
Please answer only if you are, or if your partner is circumcised. For intact, please see Poll B. For maximum sample size, please retweet.

How often do you use commercial lubrication (e.g. KY, Astroglide or Alboline) for sex and/or masturbation?

Poll B

Please answer only if you are, or if your partner is intact. For circumcised, please see Poll A. For maximum sample size, please retweet.

How often do you use commercial lubrication (e.g. KY, Astroglide or Alboline) for sex and/or masturbation?

Respondents can each answer one of the following:

Essential
Often, but not essential
Only sometimes
Never

Now, I only posted this yesterday, and the poll is still ongoing, but here is what I have so far:



So far 72 circumcised males or their partners have voted in Poll A, and 38% have said lubrication is essential for their masturbation and/or lovemaking. 24% of them said they never use it, which I find a little hard to believe. 24% responded that they use lubrication often, but it isn't essential, and 15% said they use lubrication only sometimes.

Contrast this with the intact males who responded; only 7% of them say artificial lubrication is essential. In stark contrast, 67% of them say they never use lubrication when masturbating or having sex. 5% say they use it often, but it is not essential, while 21% say they use it only sometimes.

Now, polls are still fresh, so this could change. I'm going to embed the polls here so Twitter users can answer them.








Drugs and/or Devices to Maintain an Erection
After posting these, I also got the idea of finding out what users are more likely to use drugs, such as Viagra, or devices, such as cock rings or penis pumps, to maintain an erection.

Many of us believe that circumcised men are more than likely to use Viagra or penile devices to stay hard, than intact men, because of the keratinization and desensitization over time.

So why not ask on Twitter to see what men are actually doing? I thought...

Now, Twitter's poll feature is very limited, so I've had to play with it a little bit to get it to work how I want it to. So here's what I came up with the the next poll: A two-parter!

So in the above fashion, I've made two, separate two-part polls; one for intact and one for circumcised men. One question asks how often men use Viagra or devices to maintain an erection, the other asks what age range they're in.

So here are the numbers for circumcised respondents so far:


Again, as the poll is still new, there are very few respondents.

It looks as though most respondents never really use Viagra or penile devices to maintain an erection. Then again, the greater number of respondents are within the 25-20 year age range. Few past 51. The others are young, thus probably still very virile.

The assumption I was challenging here is the idea that circumcised men become desensitized and are more likely to need Viagra or the aid of a penis pump or cock ring to maintain an erection as they get older.

Here are the numbers for intact males:



The numbers seem skewed against my assumption when comparing intact vs circumcised men.

More intact respondents indicated that Viagra or a device was essential than circumcised respondents. (17% intact vs 12% circumcised) More circumcised respondents responded "Never" than intact respondents. (78% vs 52%)

But look too at the age of the respondents; more intact men in the 26-50 and 51-75 age ranges responded than in the 25 or younger age range. In contrast, there were more circumcised respondents in the 25 or younger age range, the age where they would still have fairly robust erections; ED may be more related to age than circumcision status.

Again, the poll is still rather early and the sample size still very small, so these numbers could change.

One thing I forgot to ask, but it's a little late to add, is whether or not the men smoke, because circumcision status and age are only two pieces of the ED puzzle; other factors, such as smoking, how much sleep they get, and how often they have sex or masturbate may also affect whether or not a man is able to maintain an erection. Perhaps in a future poll.

I have embedded the polls below so Twitter users can respond.

Use of Viagra, Penis Pumps or other devices to maintain an erection
Circumcised Edition






Use of Viagra, Penis Pumps or other devices to maintain an erection
Intact Edition









Have you ever seen your father's Penis?
This poll was touched off by a conversation I saw on Facebook; some mothers want to know precisely how much does a child being a different circumcision status from his father affect their relationship.


A common pretext used to pressure parents in to having their child circumcised is that a child ought to be circumcised if the father is, the rationale being that having a different circumcision status than one's father may affect the way they bond together.

So I asked the following questions:

This is for guys out there.
Have you ever seen your father’s penis? Could you tell whether he was circumcised or not?


How old were you when you saw your father’s penis?

This is for guys who answered that they noticed their father’s circumcision status was different than theirs.

How did “being different” affect your relationship with your father?

(Space is limited, so neg = negatively, pos = positively, NE no effect)

Here's what I have so far:





So far almost half of the respondents have never actually seen their father's penis. Most who have saw their father's penis in childhood, between the ages of 1 and 10. A very small percentage, so far, saw their father naked over the age of 21.

Your blogger can tell you right now, he has never seen his father naked. Not sure I want to, either.

And, of those who have responded so far, the most noticeable thing about their fathers' penises are that they were bigger.

Circumcision status was noticeable for some, but when adding the percentages of those who noticed their father's pubic hair or didn't really think much of the experience, circumcision status was not so outstanding.

The poll is still pretty young though, so there haven't been very many respondents, and these results could change; only two votes on father/son bonding experience.

I'm going to embed the Tweets here and Twitter users can respond.









I'd like to point out here, that when circumcision first began in the United States, no one was circumcised, so all children would have been different from their fathers. This rationale wouldn't have worked then.




Locker Room Poll
And finally, a poll I put together just now regarding American intact guys and the locker room experience. 

Another common rationale circumcision advocates use to convince parents to have their child circumcised is that he'll be made fun of in the locker room.

Well, let's see what the situation may actually look like.

The poll is only just starting, so there aren't very many respondents. Twitter users can click below to take the poll.









Conclusion
These polls are informal and can't compare to an actual rigorous study, but they hopefully will give us a ballpark to work with, and I hope this sets the groundwork for any researchers out there that want to look into these matters, and hopefully they can come up with more definitive numbers.

As of today (9/29/2019) the polls are ongoing and close in about 6 days or so. I encourage readers to please share this link wherever they can for a better sample size.

Wednesday, September 11, 2019

When Someone Says It's Not the Money...

It's the money.


One of the biggest incentives for American doctors to promote and perform circumcisions on healthy, non-consenting infants is that it's easy money.

And yet whenever this is mentioned, people tend to downplay this factor.

"Doctors don't make much from circumcisions," some will say.

"What doctors make from circumcisions is nil," say others.

So how much does a circumcision cost?

It depends on who you ask, and it depends on what fraction of the cost is being reported.

Parents who want to have their child circumcised get quoted small-time three-digit numbers, ranging from 100 to 400 US dollars.

This doesn't sound like much, but then the question is, is this the full cost?

Is this only what parents pay out-of-pocket and the rest is covered through a co-pay system?

The last time I checked, at least one doctor in Canada charges up to 450 dollars Canadian a pop.

In an article released not too long ago, one doctor says he charges $700.

In this same article it is mentioned that after insurances pay, hospitals in Alaska still collect 340 dollars, which raises the question of how much exactly are insurance companies paying?

According to this article, at least one hospital, Alaska Regional, charges $2,110 per circumcision.

Given this figure, at 1.4 million babies being circumcised a year, American hospitals can be making as much as $2,954,000,000 on circumcision alone.

I thought $2,110 was a lot of money for circumcision, but it turns out this figure may actually be modest.

I recently ran across this revealing Tweet:



Here's a screen shot in case it gets deleted:



It is estimated that 1.4 American baby boys are being circumcised a year.

This means that, at $7,000 per circumcision, American hospitals can be making as much as $9,800,000,000 annually on circumcision alone.

To which I ask skeptics; you still think it isn't the money?

It's no wonder doctors and nurses gush on and on about male infant circumcision; there is money to be made, and hospitals make promoting male infant circumcision to parents their policy.

Reaping profit from non-medical surgery on healthy, non-consenting individuals already constitutes medical fraud.

This has got to be the biggest medical scam in American history, and sooner or later those who perpetuate it will be held responsible.

Sunday, August 11, 2019

Update 2019


I'd like to apologize for keeping readers waiting.

Recently, I've become very busy, so busy that I have been unable to post.

I tried to commit to writing at least one post a month, but even that is proving to be very difficult.

Believe it or not, your blogger has a life.

He is married, a father of three boys and works virtually around the clock.

After my paying job, I come home to bathe the children and put them to sleep.

It's difficult to find the energy to devote to the extensive, well-thought-out posts I want to write.

No, this is not good-bye; I don't plan on giving up on this blog, or on the intactivist cause any time soon.

Even though I don't have too much time to devote to intactivism, this cause is still at the back of my mind, and I do what I can to further it, though these days, it's very limited.

I just want to say that although I'll try to write once a month, unfortunately, due to the current circumstances, it will not always be possible, so I apologize to my readers for not being as active on this blog as I'd like.

Here are some areas in which I'm rather active though:


Twitter
Though I'm often the victim of censorship, I'm very active on Twitter, rectifying foreskin falsehoods wherever I can.

It never ceases to amaze me how people openly post their "parenting decisions" on social media for all to see, and yet have the audacity to tell those who comment to "mind their own business."



Yeah, note to intrepid parents out there who openly post about having circumcised their sons; if you don't want people commenting on your poor parenting decisions, posting them on Twitter, Facebook or any other social media is prrrrobably not a good idea.

Just a thought...

ANYWAY, follow me on twitter if you're interested on reading my ramblings @Joseph4GI

IntactiWiki
I'd like to take a moment to promote intactiwiki.org.

A few years ago, a number of people thought it would be a great idea to start a wiki to upload factual information regarding the penis, circumcision and anatomically correct male human anatomy.

We noticed that there was a particular gatekeeper at Wikipedia skewing every single article concerning the penis in favor of male infant circumcision.

Any edit made to talk about the negatives of circumcision was immediately reverted by a user whose real name is Jake Waskett.

This user did a lot of underhanded things to protect pages related to the penis and circumcision, such as revert any edits he didn't like, block IP addresses to keep others from editing these pages, and erase his own history on Wikipedia to avoid being tracked.

It looked as if there was simply no way edit Wikipedia, so one person started a page at a free wiki site which would act as a repository for all this information which could one day be uploaded to Wikipedia once this Waskett person was stopped.

We started running into trouble, because the wiki was reported as "hateful" and "anti-semitic," so it had to be moved to a more secure server.

Readers wouldn't know this, but two or three companies refused to host the wiki for unknown reasons; we suspect it was all the same; the companies didn't want to host this wiki for fear of being labeled "antisemitic" or what not.

We finally found someone who would host this wiki with no problem.

The end result was a wiki called "IntactWiki."

Problems arose when the one member with any programming knowledge left the group; he was simply too busy with other projects; none of us knew how to take care of a Wiki, let alone work out bugs that made editing difficult, so even though at long last we established a wiki for intactivism, it remained stagnant for most of its life.

That is until now.

I started noticing references to a website called "IntactiWiki" on Facebook. The articles were better-researched and more up-to-date than our own, so I became curious about was behind it.

We finally connected, and after conversing about or wikis, we came to a decision.

There can't be *two* wikis, that would be confusing.

Also IntactWiki had become derelict; nobody was updating or taking care of it.


And so it was decided that IntactWiki would meld into IntactiWiki to become the one Wiki to rule them all; one Wiki to bind them.

And so I'm proud to announce IntactiWiki.org.




All pages from IntactWiki now live there and are ready for others to update and make current.

There are also newer articles.

For information that has otherwise been made inaccessible on Wikipedia due to pro-circumcision gatekeepers, intactivists and others interested in learning complete, unadulterated information concerning genital anatomy and forced genital cutting, should visit IntactiWiki.org.

Other projects...
As I've said, I'm a busy father, so what I can do for intactivism is rather limited, but in addition to commentary on Twitter, I'll also continue to try and post on this blog. That's about as much as I can do for now.

I can't wait for the day when male infant circumcision is finally recognized for the medical fraud and gross human rights violation that it is.

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Saturday, July 6, 2019

Facebook Censoring Intactivism


This morning, I woke up to this post on my Facebook news feed:


Apparently, Facebook is censoring Doctors Opposing Circumcision and information about circumcision deaths. According DOC, Facebook removed many educational graphics they created without any notification.

Furthermore, they are not allowing the DOC website to be shared on their platform.

I myself have experienced censorship on Facebook.

Not too long ago, I created a page to address the fact that most American textbooks on health and human anatomy graphically depict the penis as circumcised, and if the foreskin is even mentioned at all, it is described as "that extra flap of skin covering the penis which is removed during circumcision." No actual pictures of the human penis were posted, only the hand-drawn graphics published in the textbooks, which show the penis dissected in many different ways for educational purposes, but apparently that was enough for Facebook to take down the whole page.

It would be very easy for critics to lump us in with the anti-vaxx movement, and thus use it as grounds to censor us, however vaccination has been scientifically proven to strengthen the immune system against pathogens that cause disease. They do not remove any flesh from the body, and, they are actually recommended by every respected medical organization, unlike circumcision.

Unless there is medical indication, and/or the individual consents, all surgery is abuse, medical fraud and mutilation. It prevents as much disease as blood letting and head trepanation.

If there were any justice, it would be pro-circ groups and websites who would be censored, because they spread much misinformation that takes an unfounded position against the most respected medical organizations in the west.

This wouldn't be the first time I've experienced censorship on social media for challenging male infant circumcision; not too long ago I was on Twitter, and the platform would not even let me post the following Tweet:



There is a problem when those who run social media platforms decide certain narratives shouldn't be challenged.

Intactivists aren't even publishing controversial, misleading information.

There is a problem when Facebook censors well-documented information, citations of medical journals and references to the most respected medical organizations in the world.

I can only surmise that information is taken down whenever someone, or some group reports it as being "offensive."

Which raises the question:

Are scientifically demonstrable facts going to be censored every time somebody finds them "offensive?"

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FLORIDA: AdventHealth Uses Circumcision as Incentive for Heart of Florida Maternity Patients



Come for the birth, stay for the circumcision!

Up until recently, Heart of Florida Health Center maternity patients on Medicaid had to travel 40 miles to Gainsville to have their babies. But now, according to an article published on Ocala Star Banner, they can deliver at AdventHealth Ocala starting in August.

The article reads almost like a paid advertisement put out by AdventHealth, a healthcare system spanning 10 states. They have recently acquired the lease for the Ocala facility from another group called Community Health Systems and are using circumcision as an incentive to attract customers.

"The deal also will bring in-house circumcision services back to AdventHealth Ocala, which the hospital's previous operator stopped providing several years ago," reads the article. No question as to why the previous operator stopped providing circumcision in the first place.
 According to AdventHealth Ocala spokeswoman. Richelle Hoenes-Ahearn, "This procedure was not offered prior to AdventHealth acquiring the hospital. However, we have plans for our medical teams to provide circumcision at AdventHealth Ocala within the next several weeks." 
The article goes on:
Heart of Florida CEO Jamie Ulmer said he only recently learned circumcision was not available at AdventHealth Ocala. Those with private insurance were able to get the procedure done outside of the hospital, but no local doctors will accept Medicaid for circumcision services. That left mothers scrambling to find a provider outside the area before the Medicaid cut-off time for the procedure, which is 27 days after birth. After that, babies have to wait for months before Medicaid will cover the procedure.

"As part of the collaboration we worked out, all babies will be able to get circumcisions at the hospital before they leave," he said.

Which raises the question; shouldn't public health coffers be used only for medically necessary procedures? Why aren't doctors accepting medicaid for circumcisions, and how is the Heart of Florida/AdventHealth deal getting around this?
"No one is saying your baby has to have a circumcision, but having the choice is first and foremost. How can you make a decision if you don't even have a choice?" Ulmer says, but here again, questions arise.

In any other case, reaping profit from non-medical surgery on healthy, non-consenting individuals constitutes medical fraud.

Without medical or clinical indication, can doctors even be performing surgery on healthy, non-consenting minors, let alone be giving parents any kind of "choice?"

Ignored here is the fact that a child is being deprived of his choice on a permanent, non-therapeutic surgical alteration on his body.

If "religious freedom" and "parental choice" are going to be cited here, does the CEO intend on extending similar services for parents who want their daughters to be circumcised?

As if it weren't bad enough that the circumcision of infants is being use as an incentive for maternity patients, inaccurate numbers are being cited to do it.
At the end of the author, Carlos E. Medina writes:
"A majority of baby boys, about 77 percent, in the United States get circumcised, but the rate has fallen from more than 80 percent since the 1960s, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The CDC recommends circumcision for a number of reasons, including the reduced incidence of contracting HIV infection from an HIV-infected woman."
He, either inadvertently, or quite deliberately quotes an inaccurate circumcision rate. This information contrasts with figures released by the CDC, which are actually much lower.

According to Reuter’s:

“In one survey, newborn male circumcision rates fell to 56.9 percent in 2008 from 62.9 percent in 1999. In another, rates of circumcision fell to 54.7 percent in 2010 from 58.4 percent in 2001. In a third, rates fell to 56.3 percent in 2008 from 63.5 percent in 1999.”

A stark difference from the quoted 77%.

Regarding HIV transmission, the CDC recommends circumcision for *adults* who are at high risk. It did *not* issue a recommendation for male infant circumcision, instead mirroring the AAP, which said in their 2012 circumcision policy statement that parents ought to weigh the evidence.
The AAP said in their 2012 Circumcision Policy Statement that “The benefits of circumcision are not great enough to recommend it.” The statement has expired, by the way, which leaves the AAP currently without a statement, so there is no actual recommendation from any respected medical organization that male infants ought to be circumcised. 
I wonder; was this information given to him by AdventHealth? Or does the author have ulterior motives? 
Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he just didn’t do his homework; the information is still incorrect and needs to be updated.

I have written a letter to the editor, but haven't yet heard back from them, and the information remains the same as of today. (July 6, 2019)